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Professor of English Helen Phillips discusses her new novel, Hum (Marysue Rucci Books/Simon & Schuster, 2024), with Ken Gould, Professor of Sociology and Urban Sustainability. Early in the research process for Hum, Phillips interviewed Gould about climate change and capitalism. In this conversation, they will reflect on that interview and discuss how creative works can intersect with sociological inquiry related to science and technology, with a particular focus on climate change and artificial intelligence.